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Awesome Ray. Thanks for posting that. I’m a n00b at this hardware and electrical engineering stuff. I just know how to write software (used to know…been a couple years) and the OpenSprinkler (OS) product is an intro to this world for me.
Dumb question: What firmware will need to be modified? OS? Arduino?
Anyone elaborate on what that process might look like?
Thanks so much. Interesting stuff…looking forward to trying to solve this problem
Ray
So is there programming required to make this FONA communicate with the OpenSprinkler? Maybe elaborate a bit on the overall solution with this Adafruit hardware?
Thank you
Adrian –
I’m looking at Hydropoint’s website. Do they offer cell network connectivity for remote access (similar to Weather)? I’m not seeing anything obvious re: that part of their solution on their website. I’ve reached out to their support staff for more info but it seems like you definitely understand their product offering.
Sounds like you had similar complaints about Weather’s communication/reporting as well. Shouldn’t have to wait HOURS to get notifications/info.
I’m using the Weathermatic controller with aircard at one controller that serves 2 of our local little league fields but as I mentioned previously in this thread the cost is a bit high. Aside from cost, the software isn’t nearly as solid and useful as Open Sprinkler. For example, Weathermatic reports watering/station activity/status changes ONCE EVERY 24 HRS. That’s really not very useful. I have alerts setup to notify me of certain controller events but none of them will actually alert me the instant the situation occurs in the field. How useful is that? Based on my controller’s log, Weathermatic’s reporting process doesn’t actually occur until ~3:40AM every day. Given this fact, it seems entirely possible that I could have a leak in my system starting at 4:00AM but I won’t be notified of it via email until the next day! Again, how useful is that? At this price point, I would expect a MUCH better reporting solution for people that rely on receiving timely events remotely from their irrigation system.
Another example: If a zone is currently running on my Weathermatic controller, I can’t remotely login and see that. There’s no indication that anything is running using their web dashboard or mobile app. Weird.
Anyway, I thought I would add further info to the discussion using my experience with the Weathermatic controller/air card tech. I don’t know anything about Banyan Water or Hydropoint. I’ll have to research those. I still would really like to see a DIY solution using Open Sprinkler and consumer level hardware and cell phone access in areas that need it. I think it would be a super cool project to create a messaging system to enable cell phone access to/from OS controllers. If we can conquer the connectivity issue, messaging capabilities are endless at that point.
Thanks. Several hot spot devices offer advanced network configs including port forwarding but it does seem the only issue here is public/routable IP addressing (sort of the whole point of this exercise. ha).
It appears business accounts can pay to get a static routable address but not consumers.
Having a better understanding of these issues of connectivity, I’m interested in knowing exactly how Weathermatic’s aircard solution works so I asked them. Here’s their response:
1. We secured contracts with all Carriers and have tech support down to the tower level here at Weathermatic.
2. We have the imei # of each card embedded in our solution with API and activation.
3. We then have a VPN from out (sic) solution into the cell carriers portals.
4. Note: This is a M2M solution for low data type end points.
Thanks so much for the info.
I see in the questions/answers on Amazon that apparently this only works with T-Mobile in the USA and only 2G. That might not be a big problem though since we aren’t moving much data to/from an OpenSprinkler.
This device might work but here’s my thoughts/questions:
Power: This unit runs on a rechargeable battery. Doesn’t look like this unit comes with a power adapter. If I can leave it plugged in using it’s micro USB cable to a compatible micro USB wall charger, then the power issue is taken care of (I think).
Ethernet: If I’m using the cell network for the public internet connection, would I be able to simply plug it into the ethernet port on the OpenSprinkler (OS) and would the OS use the 3G device as it’s router/internet connection?
Public IP: Which cell carriers hand out public IP addresses for these 3G cell devices? I’ve heard some do and some don’t? I’m actually chatting with AT&T rep online right now and it doesn’t look like they offer static/public IPs.
Port Fwd: Presuming I get a public accessible IP, does this device offer port forwarding to an internal IP and port (the OpenSprinkler)?
I’m still thinking about using a cell/gsm/gprs connection for my OpenSprinkler (OS). I found an old Rayshobby.net topic talking about GSM shields. Apparently Ray says the serial communication is different than how OS sends commands via ethernet thus requiring software changes to make it work. I’m not exactly sure what that means technically (SOUNDS like application specific networking stack programming). I’m guessing that may be the reason it seems NO ONE IS DOING THIS?
Just thinking about having a GSM link as my connection to and from my OS….that would need to be an ‘always on’ connection ready to receive connections remotely. It seems Weathermatic already has a solution for this. They use cell network air cards for ‘always on’ connections enabling remote communication with their SmartLine controllers. In fact, I’m going to install one at my little league complex this week. An entire 16 zone bundle costs ~$800 with weather station, controller and air card and 1yr cell service. After that it’s $200/yr (non metered flow) and $300/yr (metered flow).
Obviously Weathermatic is putting together a whole commercial solution offering but it sure would be nice to have a cheaper, more DIY option to those that want it.
Thanks. I pulled the trigger on an OS AC, zone expander and TP Link WiFi adapter to play with on my home irrigation system (Hunter I-Core clock).
I can’t seem to find any cell hotspot devices with a wired connection like you mentioned. Maybe I’m just not understanding your recommendation, though.
I could be thinking about it all wrong but right now it SEEMS like a solution to my problem at my little league fields with no Wifi is an Arduino Uno with an ethernet shield (connecting to the OpenSprinkler) + SparqEE Shield + SparqEE CELL might work. Would appreciate any feedback on this potential solution.
This is my first journey into small electronics hardware (e.g. arduino boards and shields etc). The last time I tried soldering was in 1995 attempting to fix cheap memory modules with cold joints from third rate manufacturers.
